16 - Chapter: Going Far Away When Intending to Relieve Oneself

16 - 'Amr ibn 'Ali informed us, saying: Yahya ibn Sa'id narrated to us, saying: Abu Ja'far al-Khatmi, 'Umayr ibn Yazid, narrated to us, saying: Al-Harith ibn Fudayl and 'Umara ibn Khuzayma ibn Thabit narrated to me, from 'Abd al-Rahman ibn Abi Qurad, who said: I went out with the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, to the open area [for relieving oneself]. Whenever he intended to relieve himself, he would go far away.¹

17 - 'Ali ibn Hujr informed us, saying: Isma'il narrated to us, from Muhammad ibn 'Amr, from Abu Salama, from al-Mughira ibn Shu'ba, that the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, whenever he went to the place of relieving himself, would go far away. He said: He went to relieve himself during one of his journeys, then said: "Bring me water for ablution." So I brought him water for ablution, and he performed ablution and wiped over his leather socks.²

The Shaykh said: Isma'il is Ibn Ja'far ibn Abi Kathir al-Qari'.³

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¹ Its chain of transmission is authentic. Yahya ibn Sa'id is al-Qattan. It is in *al-Sunan al-Kubra* under number (17).
Ahmad (15660) and Ibn Majah (334) also narrated it via multiple paths from Yahya al-Qattan, with this chain of transmission.
In Ahmad's version: I went out with the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, for the pilgrimage. In Ibn Majah's version: I performed the pilgrimage... etc. See also the hadith of al-Qaysi coming later under number (113).

² In (M) and the margins of (K) and (H): his socks.

³ An authentic hadith, and this chain of transmission is good because of Muhammad ibn 'Amr, who is Ibn 'Alqama ibn Waqqas. The rest of its narrators are trustworthy. Abu Salama is Ibn 'Abd al-Rahman ibn 'Awf. It is in *al-Sunan al-Kubra* under number (16).
Ahmad (18171), Abu Dawud (1), al-Tirmidhi (20), and Ibn Majah (331) also narrated it via multiple paths from Muhammad ibn 'Amr, with this chain of transmission.
A similar but longer version will come under numbers: (79), (82), (107), (108), (109), (123), (124), and (125). See also the hadith preceding this one.
Regarding his saying "al-madhhab" (the place of relieving oneself): al-Sindi said: What is meant is the place of relieving oneself, or going to it, as indicated by "he would go far away," for that is what befits going far away. It was also said: Rather, it became in common usage a name for the place of defecation, like "al-khala'" (the open area).